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Showing posts with label John Tate. Show all posts
Showing posts with label John Tate. Show all posts

Monday, October 13, 2014

New relations

Chasing along that old family tree the other day, I found a connection to a Major John Tate, father of Cassandra Tate Williams (b. 1765 in North Carolina, Death 1851, Bradley TN)


Daily garment for woman in 1770
Major Tate had a story about  his will, which didn't have a great source given.
However, by looking further, checking out various people in Find-A-Grave who had links to their cemetery sites, and then some RootsWeb info, there were more sources given.
Finally the data was quoted.  Ah, I'm a happy genealogical researcher when that happens.

So I dumped the original story from my ancestor's page and added the ones that gave good references.

Cassandra Elizabeth "Cassiah" Tate

Cassiah Tate's husband,  Frederick Andrew Williams, 1764-1831, is a direct ancestor of my mother's father's mother's family.  And since my mother's father died very young, I've never known anything about that lineage.

The next problem to solve is whether or not Cassiah was really his child, and part of that problem includes the two birthdays for him saying "ABT 1739 in Virginia" and "1735 in North Carolina."

I have a lot of Ancestry.Com records in which he is listed as being born within a year of 1735  in North Carolina but without any sources.  So how about the other man of the same approximate age, being born in VA?

He was either born in one state or the other, I think.

And several accounts use his will as a reference,..
The source says:
SOURCE: "Caswell Co., NC Deed Books 181701840 by Katharine Kerr Kendall. Deed Book S pgs 23-24
"On 19 Dec 1776, John and his wife, Sarah, sold 219 acres adj. Widow Yancy, William Pettit and Samuel Waddy to Richard Swift of Louisa Co., VA.
John died intestate prior to 10 Mar 1785 and his brother, Zephaniah Tate, was admr. and guardian of his six children."
So he died prior to Mar 10, 1785.

The source of his title Major states:
According to the Colonial Records of North Carolina, Vol. X, 1775-1776, page 204,
"Saturday 9, 1775, the Congress met to select Field Officers of the Minute Men and the Field Officers of the Militia; John Tate was selected as second major for Guilford County Militia, serving under Colonel Ransom Sutherland.
There are two pay vouchers for John Tate, located in the State Archives in Raleigh, for his service in the Revolution. Further research in the State Comptrollers Papers show that John served as a private in the Revolution.
He was not only in Guilford County, NC militia on Saturday 9 (no month given) 1775, he also sold some land in VA in 1776.  I think a clerk may have written Saturday rather than September 9, for the date, but we won't know, unless we check a calendar for 1775.


But I've looked at several descendent's Root's Web sites, saying they have records of the Tait Family, and it basically gives me a headache.

I found a Kesiah Tait, connected to a father named Zachariahs, son of John Tait...but I'm not at all sure this is Cassandra Elizabeth, supposedly daughter of John Tate who served in Guilford Militia.

So I will continue to let these ancestors lie in peace.  And maybe someday it will make sense, whether or not which one was in which relationship to another.



Monday, February 24, 2014

Then there was a Scottish connection too

Giles Fitz Rogers was the Rogers who came to America, and is a primary connection on my Family Tree of ancestors. 
Birth 1643 in Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
in 1672 he married
Lucille Rachel Eastham inWorchestershire, England
Death 1730 in Dunkirk, King and Queen, Virginia

Edinburgh Castle, 1930s

I am not sure of this history of Giles Fitz Rogers, because apparently his parents were born and died in England.

Village church, Scotland
But he is reputed to be the mariner who sailed to Virginia, returned to England to marry Lucille Eastham, then brought her back to Virginia where they raised their family.  Their son John Rogers is the connection through my family tree.
That tree would look something like this:

3) Barbara Rogers (Heym) (1942- living) (my children are generation 2)
4) George Rogers (1914-1985)
5) George Elmore Rogers, Sr. (1877-1960)
6) William Sandford Rogers (1850-1879)
7) George Washington Rogers (1820-1864)
8) Micajah Clack Rogers (1795-1873)
9) Rev. Elijah Rogers (1774-1841)
10) Henry Rogers (c.1741-c.1794)
11) George Rogers (1721-1802)
12) John Rogers (1683-1668)
13) Giles Fitz Rogers (1643-1730)

Stonehaven Kincardineshire, Scotland

Another leg of my tree, on my mother's side, takes me back through Ireland to Scotland.
So here's that branch...
3) Barbara Booth Rogers (Heym) (1942-living)
4) Mataley Mozelle Webb Munhall Rogers (1917-2003)
5) Albert (Bud) Webb (1891-1919)
6) Annie Elizabeth Williams Webb (1862-1942)
7) William T. Williams (1824-1898)
8) Nancy Hansford Williams (1796-1860)
9) Margaret Beattie Hansford (1762-1861)
10) Martha Tate Beatie
11) John Tait (1703-1730) and 11) Elizabeth Edward (1703 - ?)
12) James Tait (1670-1725) and 12) Agnes Clerk Tait (1669-1739)

I spoke of Rev. Thomas Hansford, and his wife Margaret Beattie Hansford, HERE.  Her parents were the Beatties of Ireland, and earlier than that, there was a Scottish connection.

Kirkdon of Maryculter Church

Her grandfather was John Tate, of  Maryculter, Kincardineshire, Scotland, who lived from 1703-1730.  Her grandmother, his wife, was Elizabeth Edward, born in 1703 in Kincardineshire, Scotland, where she died in an unknown year.  

Kincardineshire or The Mearns, on the north east coast of Scotland


Stone Circle, Kincardinshire, Scotland

Their daughter Martha Tate Beattie, was apparently born in Ireland in 1720, and she died in America.   There are some siblings of Martha Tate (or Tait) some of whom were born in Scotland, some in Ireland.

Balbegno Castle, Kencardenshire, Scoltand

 
Crofter's Cottage in Scotland

I follow the Tate's parents back through John Tate to his father James Tait, born in 1670 in Kincardineshire, Scotland, who died in 1725 in Labadoo, Convoy, Donegal, Ireland.  

Fisherwomen, Scotland

There are some interesting lists done by Root's Web World Connect Project HERE with many Tait's on the lists, including James Tait.

John's mother was Agnes Clerk Tait, born on 19 July, 1669, in Bendochy, Perthshire, Scotland.  It is believed she died at 70 in an unknown place, in 1739.  I don't have any information further back on their branch of the tree at this time.

Midlothian Scotland, St. Mary's, Dalkeith